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Tastebuds.fm shuts down today

June 24, 2025 By DanThornton Leave a Comment

It seems that my blog is becoming a grave site for various niche sites that sprang up during what might be increasingly referred to as the ‘golden age’ of the world wide web, before AI slop, when social networks were fun, and the current monopolies hadn’t completely taken over. There was Ello, Keen (which harked back to social sharing sites), and now Tastebuds.fm shuts down today.

Launched back in 2010, the idea was that you could meet people and date by importing lists of your favourite music from Spotify, Last.fm (which I’m happy to say is still going at the moment, 18 years and 101,798 songs after I first joined) and Facebook.

Tastebuds.fm shuts down today

Having signed up around 13 years ago, it’s one of those services that seemed like a really good idea but never really seemed to catch hold with enough people. I’ve dipped in an out over the years, mainly when single, but never enough for it to become a habit. Possibly because it straddled an odd line between being a social network, and a dating site.

The places I’ve lived over the last decade aren’t exactly in the middle of nowhere, but there never seemed to be enough local people talking about upcoming gigs. And being in a relationship, the dating side became irrelevant, meaning I’ve only logging in a handful of times in the last few years, mainly just to check out the bands and songs I’d listed on my profile in the past to see how my tastes have changed.

Judging by various comments around the web, most people seem to feel a similar way, although there are some nice stories of people meeting their significant other through the service.

Tastebuds.fm shuts down today

It’s not the first website or business I’ve seen close, especially given how much Google has done to launch and shutter services of the years (or the loss of ThisIsMyJam back in 2015, which hit harder at the time). But seeing various people shutter their projects feels different now, especially when I’ve had accounts with them for more than a decade, and the rollout of AI is changing the nature of the internet. I’ve let a couple of side projects quietly fade out of existence already this year, and there are some more that won’t auto-renew in the future.

I do wonder if it’s just the fact I’m getting older, but talking to my son, people at DPiP and online, there’s a malais and melancholy which seems pretty broadly shared across generations for how things were.

So while I probably won’t be mourning the loss of Tastebuds.fm on a regular basis, it’s always a shame to see services disappear, and it hits a little harder than it would have done a few years ago.

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Stepping away from ‘big’ social

July 3, 2023 By DanThornton 2 Comments

I’m not planning to attempt a dramatic exit with a grand flourish, but I’ve noticed myself gradually stepping away from ‘big’ social. The changes to Twitter post-Musk are fairly noticeable and well documented, but I’ve grown increasingly tired of the constant baiting and absolutistism on all social networks. Even if I’m increasingly resisting the urge to reply, it’s hard to ignore the deluge of rubbish piling up in each scroll through social feeds.

Attention is money when you’re largely funded by advertising or paywalls. And it’s much easier to inspire anger and outrage, especially when you’re panding to a large audience of strangers.

From politics and religion, to the era of mass media, it’s always held true. There was a brief blip when the internet was niche enough that many people were more grateful to find like-minded geeks, than interested in notoriety and fame. Which meant a lower proportion of annoyance on a daily basis. But as mainstream adoption arrived, that changed.

It’s not about everyone agreeing with my particular world view, or beliefs. I enjoy respectfully debating with friends and contacts who have different perspectives, and hopefully learning things from each other, even if we’ll never find a middle ground that pleases everyone.

What gets to me is seeing people sharing blatant rubbish, dog whistles, and being offensive for the sake of it. There’s a different between being provocative for a reason, and running around like a toddler who has discovered swearing for the first time. And boosting your follower numbers isn’t a good reason.

Stepping away from 'big' social

I’ve always wondered why people needed to comment on things that were irrelevant to them. There are lots of TV shows, sports and hobbies that don’t interest me, so I don’t watch them or take part. But I’ve never felt any need to pursue their fans around, telling them why their personal choices are rubbish.

Which is probably good, seeing as they’d be armed with cricket bats and golf clubs. Both of which seem like a waste of a nice afternoon to me. But I can understand why people feel passionately about them, and would likely wonder why I’m happy standing on a grassy bank watching cars or motorcycles drive in circles.

But there’s another reason for stepping away. Social networks offer a similar promise to reality TV, with fame and potential earnings if you’re noticeable enough. And that means constantly striving to be in the top 1%, with the money dropping off pretty steeply towards the middle ground. Most of us will be average, by definition. So what’s the point in chasing a big view count or follower number?

The best projects and communities I’ve been part of all had fairly small networks of people working together for a common aim. Whether it was the editorial forum producing the Disposable Media PDF mag in the early 2000s, the team that came together for DPiP and Peterborough STEM Festival, the times when the MCN website was being run by just a few people largely ignored by the rest of the company, or Absolute Radio was launching new apps and tech every week as an upstart outsider. Or the Team ORD sim racing squad on Discord.

And the final reason is fairly simple. Sharing my thoughts online will probably never make me rich or famous. But when I share them here, they last for as long as the domain and hosting are running. And any benefits from notoriety, advertising, email sign-ups or connections will pass my way, rather than to Musk or Zuckerberg (or their investors and shareholders).

I’ll still use Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn etc, but mainly for private messages and discussions with people who have interesting opinions or views that I’ll respect even if I don’t agree with. I’m wary of sites in the midde ground of popularity, with the constant risk that they’ll be acquired and disappear overnight (like Ello). And I’ll continue to explore new options, like the federated networks which include Mastodon and Pixelfeed (I’m currently sharing my virtual sim racing photography on Pxlmo for example).

But from now on, I’m intending to focus on sharing more on my own sites, including the half-formed random ramblings like this. Or simple tweet or toot-length observations which ignore all SEO advice. And contributing in small communities with positive purposes and targets, whether that’s to help the local community, improve healthcare for marginalised groups or just get better at sim racing.

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Is it goodbye to Ello, another niche network gone?

June 22, 2023 By DanThornton 33 Comments

I’ve never invested a huge amount of time into Ello, a social network for creatives which launched in 2014. But I did appreciate the idea of a community which promised to never show adverts or sell user data, and found an audience for some of my personal projects.

Even if it was funded by VCs from the start, which always seemed like a potential issue for the future. Particularly as it explored selling merchandise, affiliate revenues, collaboration and hiring options, and other ideas to bring in revenue before it was eventually acquired by Talenthouse in 2018. And seemingly shut recently in 2023, with an error message on the homepage, and the status page inaccessible for a few days.

Is it goodbye to Ello, another niche network gone?

I’m old enough to remember a time when social networks were springing up like daisies on a Spring lawn. Particularly in the ‘microblogging’ era of Twitter competitors launching on an almost weekly basis, and then being cut down regularly by the need to actually generate some kind of profit rather than growth metrics.

It’s why there’s a nostalgic, early-web feel to the current 2023 resurgence of Twitter alternatives as a billionaire turns it into a right wing bin fire. I don’t have any problem with someone having different political views to my own, or polite and respectful debate based on facts, but that’s very different to endless Blue Tick spam and pile-ons.

It’s also why I’m wary of committing much time and effort into any new social network with VC funding and investors. The need for financial returns means the timeline to carve out revenue against the big players will be limited by the requirement for payouts or acquisition. I’m not judging anyone who needs money to run their service, but it adds an extra challenge from the start.

The Fediverse gives me some hope for the future, whether it’s Mastodon, Pixelfed, Calckey, or something new being built on a federated system which means you’re not relying on a single point of failure due to an acqusition, or funding disappearing etc.

But it’s also why you should self-host your central identity. You should back up any of your valuable content, and anything you want to refer back to from other people. And ultimately, the internet is an ephemeral as a Snapchat message or Instagram Story, just over a longer period due to link rot, domains expiring, or storage limits running out.

It’s why physical objects haven’t disappeared, and vinyl, film cameras, diaries and notebooks continue to sell (and see various resurgences and sales growth). There’s been a return to physical communities after pandemic lockdowns and restrictions, and maybe that’ll continue. Hopefully with the right measures in place so that the vulnerable, immuno-compromised and anyone concerned about the growing number of problems associated with Covid infection can attend safely.

But it’s also why I still get a little sad whenever an online community or network closes, especially without warning and the chance for anyone to export their content or transfer their communities elsewhere.

Update July 4th, 2023:

Strangely, Ello appears to be back up and running, with no information or acknowledgement of the downtime. So it may have been a temporary technical glitch or error, which isn’t particularly reassuring for anyone who is investing lots of time and effort into creating and sharing content there.

But it’s definitely good news if you had anything on there which you wanted to back up and avoid losing forever.

Update July 27th, 2023:

And it’s gone again…

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